Curse

Arkantos · Oct 10, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

lawl for PvE? Because its really needed right?

If you're supposed to be doing damage, you're dumb if you give up 20% extra damage. Yes, even in PvE. More damage is never bad, and should always be used.

Anyways, I remember when Fenix and others said the price would rise when this update happened, and people laughed at them and called them dumb. Funny stuff.

daze · Oct 10, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

I just sold 2 of my arbbraces today.. one for 100k + 20e and the other for 100k +25e

10 left to sell, i am tempted to hold on to the to see if they actually go higher.

In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize in pve

Mr. Undisclosed · Oct 10, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If you're supposed to be doing damage, you're dumb if you give up 20% extra damage. Yes, even in PvE. More damage is never bad, and should always be used.

Anyways, I remember when Fenix and others said the price would rise when this update happened, and people laughed at them and called them dumb. Funny stuff.

Srs bsns right?

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In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize.

Exactly

Pleikki · Oct 10, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

mm.. everyone knew this coming, as i said to everyone allready at ursan nerf to save their arbraces cus Hom update raise their prices..

fenix · Oct 10, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Mr. Undisclosed

Srs bsns right?

Exactly

What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

kess · Oct 10, 2008, 04:32 AM // 04:32

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Originally Posted by fenix

What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

you are half right, for melee and ranger/paragon, I customized my weapons to get the 20% extra (that's for pve), but for caster never, just my 2 cents.

Shadowmoon · Oct 10, 2008, 04:36 AM // 04:36

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Originally Posted by daze

I just sold 2 of my arbbraces today.. one for 100k + 20e and the other for 100k +25e

10 left to sell, i am tempted to hold on to the to see if they actually go higher.

In pve customizing weapons really isnt worth it.. especially if you ever think you may sell the weapon trade the weapon or god forbid, let another character use it. Ive never found a need to customize in pve

Glad i sold my 7 for 100k + 30-35e b4 the update when everyone was saving them.

No body bought them for the 100k+50e, closest was a friend who bought a skeletonic for 50e and 3 armbraces right after the update, so he did get a good deal.

This was know for 5 months, and people who wanted them had them months ago.
I have a set in my hall if anyone wants to take a look.

daze · Oct 10, 2008, 04:41 AM // 04:41

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Originally Posted by fenix

There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

Not quite, if you read upwards a couple posts you will see that i gave 3 reasons why not to customize a weapon. (which is 3 more than NO reason)

umm and the 100% you offered is, forgive me, a bit ignorant. In my opinion it should go more like, If you have a weapon that you are 100% not planning on reselling or sharing with a different toon, then its ok to customize. Otherwise if there is a 1% chance you might sell, trade or share the weapon; you should not customize the weapon.

Im not arguing the fact that customizing doesnt add any benefit to PvE because it does. And i dont really see how anybody can argue this anyways because the idea is totally argumentative. I would not call myself "bad' at the game by any means. Ive cleared the hardest areas of the game multiple times and i dont customize my weapons.

Its not needed but it does help. That is the bottom line.

Its all totally opinion. And calling someone "stupid or bad" or berating someone for having an opinion and offering that opinion is a bit childish. IMHO

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

Glad i sold my 7 for 100k + 30-35e b4 the update when everyone was saving them.

No body bought them for the 100k+50e, closest was a friend who bought a skeletonic for 50e and 3 armbraces right after the update, so he did get a good deal.

This was know for 5 months, and people who wanted them had them months ago.
I have a set in my hall if anyone wants to take a look.

Ive been saving up armbraces for months and months now. At first i was thinking i would just sell them all after the update. But now, having stacks upon stacks of ectos is not as appealing as it used to be. Lately i have ben just giving ectos to my guildmates by the handfulls. I may just display 10 tormented weapons in my HoM.

A11Eur0 · Oct 10, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

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Originally Posted by fenix

What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

It's not free damage. It's 10g, plus whatever profit you might make on the item by selling it later, if it happens to become more popular/rare such as tormented weapons. If you bought a torm sword when it was 100k+10e and customized it, you lost out on 30 ectos worth of profit. PvE isn't worth customizing a weapon. if I want more damage in PvP, i'll mod up some junk swords that won't be worth the steel they're made of and customize them. At least the mods can be removed.

upier · Oct 10, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

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Originally Posted by fenix

What?

Are you serious? You must be the worst PvEr in the game then. Customizing is FREE DAMAGE. And since when did damage not matter in PvE? It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can. If you're not customizing your weapons, then you're either stupid, or bad. There's NO reason not to customize weapons in GW, except if you have an unconditional, or a weapon that you are 100% going to resell at some point.

You try and act all funny with 'srs bsns right?' but clearly you have no clue about GW. Maybe you should crawl back to GWO where idiocy flies a bit better.

Your look at PvE fails here:

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Originally Posted by fenix

It's ENTIRELY based around doing as much damage as you can in as short a time as you can.

Now while your position on customization is correct when the player in question actually falls under the premise you posted - that premise does not include all players.

Avarre · Oct 10, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15

If you choose to play worse than you could, that's your choice. But you forfeit the right to talk about how to play PvE.

cataphract · Oct 10, 2008, 07:31 AM // 07:31

I don't see how an uncustomised Healing Staff would make me a worse player. Are you suggesting monks should waste their time wanding stuff? Can't wait for someone to pull the old "you-can-trigger-RoF" argument.

On topic:
I seriously doubt I'll be putting Tormented weapons in my HoM. Destroyer ones are ugly enough.

fenix · Oct 10, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Like Avarre said, not customizing weapons (where it applies, obviously) is simply making yourself weaker for no reason. If you're that desperate for cash, you obviously don't know how to play GW properly. Customizing gives you a large benefit, and is worth it, except when you might decide to resell the weapon. For anything else, there's no reason not to.

And sure, you can beat zones without customizing, but if you're in a good, organised team, which I'm guessing you guys havent been, you want to finish the zone as fast as possible. So, not customizing is slowing up the team for no reason except that you don't want to lose out on a few plat that you'll make back anyway.

upier · Oct 10, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by Avarre

If you choose to play worse than you could, that's your choice. But you forfeit the right to talk about how to play PvE.

Actually no.
PvE is designed to be very forgiving of mistakes. Or better yet - of actions that should be considered mistakes IF PvE had been designed to cater the skill of the best players.

It's the same reason why one can make a mesmer in PvE and that mesmer doesn't come with a maxed Sunspear title.

Kamatsu · Oct 10, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Please keep to the topic. No trolling, flaming, being rude, etc.

Lyynyyrd · Oct 10, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07

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Originally Posted by Elmindreda Farshaw

Yeah cause my monk really needs that extra 20% base damage in pve. Really tho I almost never customize my weapons on the off chance that I will sell it again later. Something new always comes along.

You'll regret not customizing when a wand spike fails.

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Originally Posted by cataphract

I don't see how an uncustomised Healing Staff would make me a worse player. Are you suggesting monks should waste their time wanding stuff? Can't wait for someone to pull the old "you-can-trigger-RoF" argument.

On topic:
I seriously doubt I'll be putting Tormented weapons in my HoM. Destroyer ones are ugly enough.

Nope, you're supposed to be healing on a constant basis, because your team is probably terrible and always in need of red bars being pushed up. Good teams use Protection Prayers, which rend healing unnecessary for a large portion of battles. And when the healing is not necessary, you can just stand around not wanding - dealing 120% less damage than your potential would allow.

Sjeng · Oct 10, 2008, 12:51 PM // 12:51

Way to ignore Kamatsu's request Lyynyyrd.

And I agree with upier.

We can discuss customization here (whether you customize or not) and more on topic here (if you should or shouldn't customize).

ontopic: It was to be expected, but if people are really going to pay more for them remains to be seen. I've bought most tormy's for an average of 100k+15~20 Z-keys. Some cheaper and some more expensive.
Not going to put them in my HoM though as long as I don't know what the GW2 reward will be. If the reward for 11 Destroyer weapons will be the same as 11 Tormy's, I won't put them in there. If there are going to be 2 unique unlocked weapons sets (1 for each set), then I might.

romeus petrus · Oct 10, 2008, 01:44 PM // 13:44

There is mroe demand for armbraces because now everyone who wants a "full" HoM would want some tormented weapons to display. At teh same time despite the sudden influx of armbraces into the market by ppl who were saving them up for this day, the supply is a lot more limited than earlier. It is reasonable to expect them to stabilize in price around 70e in the next couple of weeks.

Damian979 · Oct 10, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15

I think the issue is being forced to customize any weapon you want to display in order to put in the HoM not whether to customize. Of course customization decreases the number of said weapons in the trade market and increases the price.

Customizing a weapon for actual use is good. Auto-customizing a weapon that a character will never use simply to be able to display it is bad. It should at the very least have a dedicated status so it could be at least sellable or usable on an applicable character.

Yes, my melee characters use customized weapons. No I don't need a staff customized for my sin just because I want to put it in my HoM.

Yes you can just put them on the heroes for that char but seriously, who wants to spend 400k so Dunkoro can have a new staff?

Shursh · Oct 10, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

yesterday, i was buying @ roughly 100k+30e and selling @ 100k+35e...made myself a nice little profit

but yea, i did see people spamming "WTS armbrace 100K+50e" and "WTS armbrace 60/70e"

makes me wonder if i should have hung on to those armbraces i bought...